Pusha-T has put himself in good company on his personal chart, but he says coke rap still gets a bad rap. “I don’t know when it became cool for people to ignore the lifeblood of rap,” he says, taking a hand out of the bowl of water and giving it to the manicurist to cut.

“It’s funny, because I get a lot of attention for the term ‘coke rap,'” he continues. “Either they hit it, or they find ways to depreciate it. Like, I drop an album, I go through a cycle and by the time the album cycle is over, then it’s back, ‘Oh, it’s only this, it’s only that.’ And then I watch the same people who shoot the genre when I’m there, they sit down. Then, in my absence, it turns into, “Oh man, that’s great lyricism.”

For Pusha-T, coke rap is a “lazy way to describe” the style, since it’s essentially no different from street rap. To save time, he’ll accept it, but he says his new album will bring a bit of royalty to the name.

Push got used to being called a coke rapper, but he drew the line when Pharrell called him a “mixtape rapper.” The story that Push first shared on Instagram took place shortly after he taped “Hear Me Clearly.” When Pharrell heard an early cut of the track, he said, “That’s cool, but I don’t want you to be a mixtape rapper for the rest of your life.” Push’s ego was bruised.

“He was sarcastic and mean,” Push says now, wrinkling his face as if he smelled something bad. To some, “mixtape rapper” has a negative connotation, but Pusha has a different opinion. “He knows my heart is the rap mixtape. Actually, I only like mixtape verses,” he explains. “I’ve known him all my life, and there was a time when we both had the same taste for mixtape verses. And it’s a moment that I try to get him to review a lot, dealing with me. I particularly believe that our success and our greatness is when we are in these pockets.